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Our kicking is meant to distract or disable more than it is intended to damage

Where does kicking reside in a style governed by Fist Logic?

To answer this we should look to how kicking is presented in the Forms, the only Forms that have kicking are the Chum Kiu and the Dummy, the Chum Kiu is more about the IDEA, the role kicking plays, while the Dummy is closer to the practice or application.

There are three kicks in Chum Kiu that introduce three slightly different mechanics, in the first kick, first mechanism there is no weight shift and no body movement, only the Leg is active. In the second mechanism there is still no weight shift but there is rotation on the supporting leg creating a certain amount of momentum, a certain amount of thrust, and in the third mechanism there is still no initial weight shift just a turn and a thrust similar to the second finished with a late weight shift into the landing leg.

As with all of our Forms these are not suggested applications but rather a collection of IDEAS that benefit from being studied, understood in their first instance then disassembled and reassembled in new formation, rinse and repeat.

The fact that there is no weight shift is very significant, remaining in position implies that we are kicking from a defensive position, the target is coming to us as opposed to us needing to seek out a target.

Being defensive in nature the kicks are meant to function without compromising our balance or stability, on contact we are firmly pushed into our stance and Ground Force Reaction increases the payload transferred into the incoming target.

The science behind collisions, the Conservation of Momentum Theory, coupled with Ground Force Reaction enables us to deliver massive force without the need to manufacture massive force.

In the Chum Kiu Form once the kick has been completed we are for all intent and purpose standing still with our leg in the air, we then shift the weight forwards and land on the kicking leg, in application we are stepping into the attacker after the kick has landed so that we can continue the attack with our main weapon, our Hand Strikes or in the third mechanism we continue into another type of kick such as a stamp kick.

The role of kicking in Wing Chun is as a complimentary assistant, it is not as a primary weapon but as a support weapon that sets up positions and situations for deployment of our primary weapon. 

Later, once we understand the core IDEAS of Biu Gee and the Knives we can manufacture greater, even massive power through our weight shifting, but even then our kicking still plays a supportive role, it is almost as if our complimentary assistant has just turned into the Incredible Hulk.

Wing Chun kicking also has a strategic role, feinting as in the charging knee and bridging the gap, these are to facilitate Fist Logic.

In the Video clip below I am not moving too well as by the end of winter { it is the third day of spring here in Oz as I write this} my poor old spine is not so flexy, but the information is sound and summer is on the way.



Our kicking is meant to distract or disable more than it is intended to damage, without the need to generate force we can be quicker and more precise, once distracted or disabled our opponent will drop their guard or lose their shape allowing us to do what we do best.

Fist Logic.





If you see the Forms in the same way today as you did 5 years ago what have you been doing for the last 5 years?


Wing Chun Forms are the blueprint for how we move, they are not Kata, they are not shadow boxing sets. There comes a point in our training where our understanding of the Forms changes so much that we see in many ways they go nowhere and do nothing and are all the better because of that.

They are how we move and not where or why.

I have played many sports and trained in numerous styles of Martial Art, there comes a point where they all become the same thing.

As a young man in the U.K. I played a great deal of Lawn Tennis, English winters are not Tennis friendly so I would head indoors and play Racquet Ball, Table Tennis even Badminton to maintain court awareness, keep my hand-eye coordination up,  keep my reflexes sharp, they share many of the same moves, same shots, same plays.

In many ways they are the same game.

I tried Squash a few times but when Tennis players play Squash watch out, those flowing follow-throughs become lethal head shots in the confines of a Squash court.

Squash needs different movement due to the environment it is played in, once we recognise that the differences in movement, footwork and shot creation are caused by environmental necessity we can see that all the moves are still the same, they just look different.

Approaching the Wing Chun Forms with this perspective opens them up in many surprising and enlightening ways, new thinking proliferates, new questions arise, what is really going on when we move our arm through Bong Sau?

Using an open perspective approach describe what happens when we move our arm in a large complete circle.

In the beginning we think we that move our arm in one large circular motion, from “A” back around to “A”, but with new thinking we see that we also move our arm in many small arcs, “A” through  to “B”, “B” through  to “C” and so on, from here it is a short step to moving many different sized arcs, “A” through to “K”, “L” through to “M”, “N” through  to “D” and so on.

Directions become nothing more than descriptions, forwards, backwards, up, down, the same movement different value.

Arm swings, Leg swings, same movement different value.

Is there any kicking methodology in Biu Gee?

Same movement different value.

If you see the Forms in the same way today as you did 5 years ago what have you been doing for the last 5 years?

Tick, tock.





As a follow along of sorts dealing with positioning the video below is from 2013, it is difficult to appreciate how good these guys are when everything is done so slowly and without malice.  Watching this I am still really impressed by the guys that trust me to teach them, they are multitudes better than this now { I truly pity anyone that gives them reason to act}, and happily so is my film making, but I really must revisit the slow mo’s and sound effects. Lol.



The standard training IDEAs of Hey Diddle Diddle, Straight Down The Middle do not stack up against even an average attacker, Wing Chun’s greatest weakness is that we only ever train against other Wing Chun people with our almost trademark poor mobility and complete absence of intelligent strategy.





A complete no-no in Wing Chun is to defend with both arms, all Lap Sau is performed with both arms, all Fook Sau latches are performed with both arms, all Chi Sau is performed with both arms.


A major aspect of Chi Sau is the use of latches or Lap Sau, pretty much everything in Chi Sau is achieved through some application of a Lap Sau, but where does Lap Sau belong in the grand scheme?

If we are using a Lap Sau it should be obvious that something has gone wrong from the view point of effective and efficient Wing Chun, for whatever reason were not able to apply simultaneous attack and defence and then follow up with relentless striking, Wing Chun’s first choice of action.


The most likely scenario would be that we have been surprised and reacted in a manner that we would not use if the choice was our own, if we look at the Lap Sau drill in Chi Sau it is performed from a high Lan Sau position, the Lan Sau or Bar Arm is a hard block, Wing Chun does not employ hard blocking so it is safe to think that this is a position we have found ourselves in and not one we chose.

Trying to use a simulation of the rolling Lan Sau through Lap Sau and Strike is very poor Wing Chun and should be abandoned immediately.

It is Bogus Wing Chun.

The easiest way to tell if what we are doing is an exercise to explore and IDEA or an application that we could cut and paste is to ask ourselves “What would need to happen for me to be in this position”?  Asking this question can help us evaluate the IDEA, and hopefully come up with some thoughts on where to use it.

Asking how did I get here makes it pretty obvious that all of Chi Sau is just an exercise to explore IDEAS and not in any way truly applicable, apart from anything else why would the Bad Guy stand square in front of us? 

A complete no-no in Wing Chun is to defend with both arms, all Lap Sau is performed with both arms, all Fook Sau latches are performed with both arms, all Chi Sau is performed with both arms.



We need to discover where the latches we train in Chi Sau can be used in open situations, against people that do not stand where we want them to stand. 



Weekend Headspin



In a nutshell I am the guy that will be using it to prevent getting his ass handed to him.


Every Wing Chun teacher has to decide what to take from the pot that is
Wing Chun Concepts, interpret them and find a way to communicate them to others, this is why there is so much difference between teachers, as humans we do not see things as they are but in fact as reflections of ourselves.

What we all teach is what we already know by way of our personal experiences served up in the manner of Wing Chun.

My own experience contains quite a bit of fighting, so for me everything is inevitably looked at through the filter of Fist Logic.

This does not mean that I am right and Body Logic or Mind Logic teachers are wrong, but it does explain a lot about where my teaching is headed and what it can offer, and by inference a lot about what other teachers teach and what they offer.

Fist Logic is less interested with the process and far, far more interested in the results, this is why some people find my views challenging, often bringing into doubt the advice of even the most respected Gurus.

I have been asked what gives me the right to question the teaching of our Wing Chun predecessors?

In a nutshell I am the guy that will be using it to prevent getting his ass handed to him.

A case in point, around about 2 years ago I was invited to a workshop at a friends school, the guest teachers were 2 of the most respected teachers from Hong Kong, on one occasion they were teaching something that really did not make any sense to me so I asked its purpose, I was told that it had no real purpose that it was only an exercise, when I asked what was the value in spending training time doing something without purpose I was again told that it was just an exercise.

Out of respect for my friends I left it at that, to prosecute the argument of practicality, one of the pillars of  Wing Chun,  would of done nothing but upset the other students present that valued that type of training.

I have significant fighting and sports experience, winning and loosing, something I know intimately is that violence and aggression when they are up in our faces is mind numbing.    

Injuries and debilitating knocks are part and parcel of any clash in any environment, no ones body is ever operating optimally if we cannot do something well enough when we physically do it wrong we are screwed.

Is Mind Logic worth the time spent training it?

Is Body Logic worth the time spent training it?

If there is a balance then absolutely shit yeah they are, but there needs to be balance.

Mind Logic develops the thought to do work, Body Logic develops the body to do work, but only Fist Logic does the work, this is the way of all disciplines, of all encounters, even in the workplace, as a Chef there have been many times when the orders just keep pouring in, so much work, looking around I could see my staff shell shocked and semi paralysed just by the thought of the work to be done and the short amount of time we had to do it in.

Mind numb, Body offline, the answer was to buckle in and make a Fist of it.