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A STICK PRIMER FOR OUR MAN KUNAL.

It is not ‘Rocket Science’ it is just another level of understanding.

These are a few IDEAS to work with when playing with sticks.

They are primarily for Kunal but you would all benefit from playing with this stuff.

Any decent Martial Artist should be able to transfer their knowledge from empty hands to full hands.

It is not ‘Rocket Science’ it is just another level of understanding.

Do not feel that you are expected to work with what I am showing here, I am an old and half broken man so get on line and find someone that you would like to look like.

Try not to pick an American, this is not bias on my part, in the U.S.A. Karate is a performance sport and not a combat sport, in Karate in the U.S.A. Kata are super important and finding new almost ‘Hollywood’ ways of doing Kata becomes essential.

Flashy moves never work in genuine violence, keep it simple.

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CHI SAU FOR PRE-CONTACT.

Chi Sau is just a game we play, a means to an end , if we play it without awareness and intention it is so easy to end up in a ‘finger pointing at the moon’ situation.

Rick asked me to expand on my statement that the Chi Sau skills we learn and develop need to be engaged before we make contact with incoming force.

It is pretty hard to make a video on Chi Sau without a partner so I hope this makes some kind of sense.

Chi Sau is just a game we play, a means to an end , if we play it without awareness and intention it is so easy to end up in a ‘finger pointing at the moon’ situation.

When we get back to training, hopefully in September, we will spend the month working towards a deeper understanding and appreciation of Chi Sau.

HERE ARE SOME OLDER POSTS THAT ALSO COVER ASPECTS OF THIS.

POST ON CHI SAU FROM THE VAULT.

Most problems associated with misunderstanding Chi Sau or even just Wing Chun itself arise out of a misunderstanding of what ‘COUNTER ATTACKING’ means.

Here is an old post that may help with that.

COUNTER ATTACKING.

“Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.”
― Winston S. Churchill

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WAS EINSTEIN CONFUSED?

NOTHING HAPPENS UNTIL SOMETHING MOVES.

I.M.O. Wing Chun is not a fighting art, it is a fighting strategy.

Albert Einstein was of the opinion that ‘time is an illusion’.

Without time nothing happens, so nothing moves.

Hence the confusion because his own words ‘nothing happens until something moves’ brings this into doubt.

I.M.O. Wing Chun is not a fighting art, it is a fighting strategy.

Which is why it fails so often when people try to use it as it is taught.

I do not think that this was ever Dr. Leung Jan’s intention.

How we engage with the work mentally is more important than how we engage with it physically.

Mental fluidity is essential for us to reach out and touch the ‘little idea’.

Most of my own training is a hybrid of all the things that have affected my life, Boxing, Judo, numerous diverse sports, cooking and even music, because it is through this eclectic lived experience that I view my Wing Chun.

To be expected, you will see it differently as you have lived differently.

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THE ONE INCH PUNCH AND MY SIFU, JIM FUNG.

PIC

THIS IS A PUSH, IT NEEDED TO BE. BUT THE POWER IS STILL THERE.

The amount of power needed to abruptly push someone off of their feet is commensurate with the amount of power needed to break things.

Richard asked the following question on our whatsapp Group page…

Hi Derek, question for the week. The 1 inch punch. I have seen vids of Bruce Lee do it with a lot of torsion, and Sigung Fung doing it square on. Is there any practical use? Was Sigung Fung that powerful?”

It is important to understand the nature of any demonstration is basically ‘Infotainment’.

The amount of power needed to abruptly push someone off of their feet is commensurate with the amount of power needed to break things.

Like ribs and eye sockets, good luck finding a volunteer for that trick.

There are many internet trolls that watch a video of my Sifu and scream “Fake”,.

From a video.

How smart are they.

One of the reasons Wing Chun does not have sparring is because the average Wing Chun player wishes to avoid getting hurt and not engage in it, it is the same with any demo.

I have seen my Sifu perform this on many occasions, the body movement is minimal, the focus sublime, it is as real as a car crash.

But it is also a gimmick, or at the least a training exercise.

As I recount in the video my Sifu once gave me a serious tap, not really a punch, but it was as hard as anything I have experienced.

And I used to box.

EVERYONE. HAS A PLAN, UNTIL YOU PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE.

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IT’S THOSE DAMN HORMONES.

THIS IS NOT TABLE TENNIS.

This is not the body that did the WORK, this is not the mind that studied the IDEA.

I was forwarded a FB page from a contact of sorts, it was of a Wing Chun Group showing a workshop with a Hong Kong Sifu.

It was the standard format showing how to do S.L.T. movement to inflict a powerful strike.

In the comments someone trolled the Sifu saying some rubbish about how it would not work and how he should be pressure testing his stuff.

I was not surprised by the trolling it really was the type of video presentation that encourages trolling and is so easy for an uneducated person to look at and think that Wing Chun is a ‘FAKE’ Martial Art.

Not because of the Sifu, but because the students looked and acted like they would as Geoff Thompson says ‘struggle to fight off sleep’ and the Sifu was trying his best not to wake them up.

In partial defence of the troll, all of the ideas shown were extremely lame and unrealistic, even for that particular group of sleepy students.

I have done my share of workshops and you have no choice but to work with what you have been given.

Absolute fact: Everything will work if we are in the right place at the right time and we decide to use it.

Even Table Tennis shots.

Especially Table Tennis shots.

Like all trolls, the guy was a total dick-head with little to no idea about genuine street like situational violence.

It is never the Martial Arts style that gets pressure tested, it is the person.

It is about how the person reacts when his/her body and mind panic.

This is why demonstrations that show students chilling and having fun are prone to trolling, where is the stress factor?

Dealing with genuine violence is all about understanding and compensating for our hormonal response and not about physically fighting.

Hormone induced panic is not controllable, it happens because we experience a sudden shock.

Hormones do not trickle in, they flood the system before that initial shock has fully registered.

WE DO NOT SEE THEM HORMONES COMING.

Thinking that we can somehow control our hormones once they are running amok in our bloodstream is madness.

Advising students to breathe easy, relax, centre, put their minds in their spine is great and all that, but about as achievable as levitating out of the way once the hormone dump has happened.

That is why so many Wing Chun demonstration videos look so lame, even when the information is excellent.

These videos all end up looking like a David Attenborough presentation of a bunch of Pandas with some Sifu or another making up stuff you can do with the S.L.T.

100% Troll bait.

But I pity the Sifu, he is on ‘a hiding for nothing’ from people that understand neither violence nor Wing Chun.

Wing Chun, like all Socially Oriented Martial Arts, is a method to explore violent contact not deal with violent contact.

Once the shock happens and the hormones drop we are out of our standard operation settings.

Right here, right now, in this shit storm. This is not the body that did the WORK, this is not the mind that studied the IDEA.

We have not trained in this completely new physical/mental/emotional condition or for this chaotic unknown/unexpected/random situation so it becomes a flip of the coin type of thing.

This sounds much worse than it is because it is the same for all styles, all people, even the Bad Guy.

What we can do in training is to explore why such shocks occur and work on limiting the chance of that occurrence.

Awareness and avoidance are key ideas to factor in.

Shock is a result of something happening that we did not expect or something that we may have expected acting in a different way.

Such as a small man with a massively heavy punch.

Or a big, heavy man that moves like a ballet dancer.

When we engage another person our aim may appear to be self-defence, at least initially, but in reality, we should be attempting to take the shock out of our opponents attack and ramping up the shock level of our response.

Diminish the incoming load while increasing the outgoing load.

The initial panic problem is due to our poor timing, essentially, if the strike gets to us quicker than we expected we slip into Hormone Shock.

Hormone Shock is a response to things happening too quickly for us to evaluate and respond to.

It is all in the ‘timing’.

The easiest way to control ‘timing’ is to control the space in which it is happening.

The longer something takes to happen the less the chance of shock.

At this present juncture, where we should be, social distancing, 1.5 metres from each other, we are still too close to our partner to adequately respond to a surprise attack.

At this position, Chi Sau range, we are deliberately placing ourselves in the ‘Shock-Zone’.

Playing with this aspect, especially as we really should be anyway, can help us get a new perspective on what we think we do.

Distance {Space} = Time.

If we have sufficient Space and Time we will be able to think in a much more concise manner, better and clearer thinking minimise shock.

A quick but important sidestep, we do not get more time by stepping into an attacker, just sayin’, this is physics, not Wing Chun.

It is only thinking that can help us.

It is our MIND that gets shocked but our BODY pays the price.

The question becomes how do we get more time?

This subject is a whole series of posts in itself, but to generalise we stretch the time we have been offered.

When we stretch something it gets weaker, longer and slower, even if we still get hit the shock of that hit is much less.

Something we can explore during this enforced period of Solo Training is ‘how can we use our training to apply this idea of stretching the timing of an incoming attack’?

Our ability to control this first second of the engagement will depend far more on quick thinking and creativity than 30 years of training.

We will all come up with our own solutions, and this is as it should be.

Below is a video from the vault, back in early 2018 when I was still working for the railways as a Controller, that can give us a starting point towards stretching time.

If some of the content of the above video appears a trifle disconnected to the content of the article here is a link to the original post that may, or may not help clear things up. CLICK HERE.

Violence happens by Surprise, Closer, Harder and Faster than in most Martial Arts Training.

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A TALE OF THREE STICKS.

PICK ONE.

Or of course there is always someone that asks ‘Will this work in the street’?

This is just a bit extra to keep our heads somewhere near what our training was.

It is meant to be light hearted and off beat but it may just come over a tad confused and delusional.

CABIN FEVER.

Over the years I have been teaching there have been many students that when shown something a little bit outside the box say ‘Can we do that in Wing Chun’?

Or of course there is always someone that asks ‘Will this work in the street’?

I get it, we understand that there is a bunch of ‘shitheads out there and we may just bump into them so we best be ready’.

But we do not know who they are so we do not know if what we are doing is enough.

IT IS.

It always was.

It always will be.

I also do a belated look at the Rubber Mallets.

STAY HEALTHY.

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WHAT A TIME IT WAS.

The quick takeaway would be “Chill out, nobody can relax anyway”.

This post could well be proof that I have been cooped up in my place for just a bit too long.

There is nothing in this post that we do not all know but perhaps it will encourage you to think about it a little bit more or at least again.

The quick takeaway would be “Chill out, nobody can relax anyway”.

The key to what we do is more about experiencing what it means to be a body.

Stay frosty tribe.

Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

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MORE STUFF TO THINK ON DURING LOCKDOWN.

SHADOW MAN MAKES THE POINT.

It is as they say ‘the fight in the dog and not the dog in the fight’.

There is a gentleman named Lee Morrison that has a group named Urban Combatives, I really enjoy listening to him talk, usually on other peoples podcast but also on his own Youtube presentations, he talks from experience and he knows what he is talking about.

It is for good reason that he is one of the worlds most respected men in the world of interpersonal violence.

Recently I was watching one of his ‘reflections’ on Youtube when I noticed in the sidebar that he was showing a workshop he held with a British Wing Chun School, this piqued my interest.

I rarely watch his practical videos, the ones I have seen are brilliant but Urban Combatives, as the name implies, focus on dealing with extreme violence with extreme responses.

There is no thought of ‘Counter Attack’ and no thought of ‘Minimal use of Brute Force’.

Lee Morrison has a specific approach to dealing with Bad Guys, an approach that grew out of his own life experiences, one he very obviously understands deeply and trusts completely.

However, as organic and genuine as Lee Morrison’s style is it is still a style, styles do not win fights, men do, watching him I am sure he would.

It is as they say ‘the fight in the dog and not the dog in the fight’.

When you listen to some of his discussions on dealing with violence, his ‘Fist Logic’ is remarkably aligned with Wing Chun’s ‘Fist Logic’, albeit ballistically so, this is an important point to consider when watching the video.

The video of his workshop at the Wing Chun School pretty soon sees him respectfully informing all attendees that Wing Chun’s ‘Chain Punching’ is all but useless in real situations, the reaction from the Wing Chun Students is stunned bewilderment.

He is of course correct, as we well know.

In discussing this video I am painted into a corner by the fact that I do not know why this school invited him so it is impossible for me to know what they were looking for, and as such make fair and unbiased comments.

Form your own opinion.

If you watch the video if it was not for the fact that L. M. lightly criticises Wing Chun it could be a Wing Chun lesson, a ballistic Wing Chun lesson but all in all still Wing Chun.

To my eyes, it looked as if the guys attending did not try to integrate Wing Chun movement, which is really sad because they may have not seen the connection, the bridge, and may have missed the value and transferability of what L.M. was demonstrating.

Then again perhaps they got it all.

I am not trying to criticise the Wing Chun guys involved, this is a heavily edited video that is posted to benefit Urban Combatives and more than likely drive business to him for his workshops, so to be expected it is shaped in that direction.

Clips that showed how Wing Chun is IDEALLY suited to this type of approach may well have been left out.

Never forget that Youtube is a shop window.

Apart from the very ballistic nature of the event, this is how we train, how we think, for my money, this IS Wing Chun so there is a good deal we can take away from this video.

If you guys cannot see the alignment between what L.M. is doing and what we do talk to me, or at the moment send me an email or put it on the group chat.

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BANDS FOR CHUM KIU.

YET ALL MOVEMENT STEMS FROM STILLNESS, GO FIGURE.

HI GUYS, IT GETS WORSE.

When I was training this morning I thought I would stick this out there, it will be at least 4 weeks before we can be in a face to face scenario, this is intended as a starting place, buy some bands, buy some clubs, it is easier still to buy them on-line and get them delivered, Amazon get things to us in quick time so I advise using them, but they are not always cheaper.

Here is a link for bands. BANDS.

And here is one for Rubber Mallets. MALLETS.

Bunnings are even cheaper than Amazon for Mallets but their post out is super slow.

As crazy as it sounds if we create our own circuit based on Wing Chun movements it will help us get better progress than usual training due to the fact that we are thinking deeply about what we want to do from a personal perspective.

Go through some of the videos on the clubs vimeo channel, for instance in the search pane write Chum kiu and check a few random videos, if anything does not make sense tell me which video you are referring to, give me a timestamp and I will watch it and try to explain it it a better way.

I can do this with other peoples videos as well, but keep in mind that i will only be able to answer about how it relates to what i teach.

Film yourself doing a form and send it to me for assessment.

Although I do not think that Zoom or Skype sessions are effective we could try one.

Start a Q&A on the Whatsapp.

If we develop a program that can keep us training and still having fun we will all move forwards.

Anyway, stay tuned in.

WE MUST AIM TO BE EQUAL TO THE LARGENESS OF THE THINGS AROUND US.

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EVERYDAY STANCE.

Beware of patterns that do not translate well to other patterns or other conditions.

Hi Guys, as we go into this “Hard Lockdown” we will all have plenty of time, let me know of anything you would like to work on and I will knockout a video, I have time as well, right now this is just to keep us all in the loop, nothing new just a recap on STANCES.

Areas to think in…

Movement.

The number one function of our brain is to control our movement, we know that not only is there a brain-body connection but also a body-brain connection that using our body in different ways stimulates neurogenesis, stimulates neuroplasticity is stimulates Brain-Derived Nootropic Factors which is the fertiliser for making new connections [synaps?] so we have to move.

Observe the movement taking shape.
Become curious about what is happening.
Be kind to yourself.

Frugality matters, reduce complex problems down to their simplest elements, even the most complicated relationships and problems have identifiable underlying patterns.

Beware of patterns that do not translate well to other patterns or other conditions.

They will create cross pattern interference that our Brain has to somehow resolve

Understanding the work.

What is true interpreting energy?

If your vision and hearing have no basis, it is difficult to achieve accuracy.

When your vision takes in far and near, left and right; when your hearing takes in rising and falling, slow and fast; when your understanding of movement encompasses evading, returning, provoking, and completing; and when your sense of action embraces turning, exchanging, advancing, and retreating, then this is true interpreting.

We must internalise and focus on the core concepts of the art.

Never forget that all styles are created to deal with certain real yet local problems,

as our problems change so does the art need to, it is evolution.

It is vital to understand the environment that our practice will need to perform in.

BODYWORK AND INTENTION

The difference between bodywork and intention is that although the movement is the same they are fundamentally the opposite of each other.

Bodywork tends to focus on the process, the “HOW”.

Whereas Intention focuses on the product, the “WHY”.

A lot of people that struggle to make the transition from Form to Function do so because they tend towards thinking that Process and Product, Form and Function are the same things because they share the same movement, this is understandable and happily also avoidable.

STAY HEALTHY EVERYONE.

Learn the form, but seek the formless. Learn it all, then forget it all. Learn The Way, then find your own way.

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